536: Creating a Life Force Energy Home & Reducing EMFs With Focused Life Force Energy (FLFE)

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Katie: Hey, and welcome to “The Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the tip. And this matter is gonna be in all probability a brand new one for some folks listening. And I’ll admit there are parts of it I’m nonetheless studying and don’t totally perceive but. However we speak about creating and curating life power vitality, additionally about issues like decreasing EMFs and the way that ties in as properly. And I’m right here with the founders of FLFE, which is Centered Life Power Vitality. And we speak about issues like excessive consciousness fields, harmonizing with versus mitigating EMFs and what that appears like, how they examined this know-how and the scientific backing for it, and a complete lot of different instructions.

I’m right here with two folks, Jeff and Clayten. Clayten has over 25 years of expertise on this discipline, and he’s the coed of Dr. David Hawkins in kinesiology. And he has a complete set of protocols associated to this. We get in-depth then I clarify extra what it’s. I do know it sounds just a little esoteric proper now. However he has plenty of work within the exploration of consciousness and non-linear therapeutic applied sciences, together with the event of this program, FLFE with Jeff Stegman, who has targeted on making a excessive consciousness tradition in his companies, and in companies round and associated to this know-how. So like I stated, we get into the specifics. They clarify higher than I might what that is and the way it works. However normally, it’s about making a discipline inside your property that’s calming and loving, and in addition has a measurable impact they’re discovering in analysis in harmonizing EMFs. So I’ll allow them to clarify it from right here. With out additional ado, let’s be part of Jeff and Clayten. Clayten and Jeff, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here immediately.

Jeff: Glad to be with you, Katie.

Clayten: Good to see you, Katie.

Katie: I’m excited for this dialog. And we’re gonna get to go deep on one explicit matter that I believe could be considerably new for the viewers after which plenty of completely different subtopics under that.

However earlier than we soar into that, I might love to only let the viewers hear just a little background about each of you and the way you bought into this space of analysis. I’ve notes that, Jeff, you’re changing into a farmer to use among the issues we’re going to speak about immediately. And that Clayten was a industrial fisherman in earlier life. So I might love to only hear perhaps among the story of what introduced you each to this work.

Jeff: I might begin. Yeah, it appears from an early childhood, I really like science fiction. I really like getting misplaced and like the potential for a a lot greater world than we noticed round us. And even in late grade college, early highschool, I did sensory deprivation experiments with myself and was searching for methods to depart my physique. However in the meantime, each toes had been on the bottom, have been on the bottom. I constructed a household enterprise with my brother, very long-term staff, and constructing a aware tradition of type of, you understand, heart-centered enterprise.

And that’s how I met Clayten. He was really teaching in enterprise as a religious path. And so I started to work with him. I used to be an early meditator, too. I began… My mom, she’s very good. I used to be smoking pot on the time in highschool, or really early eighth grade, so she launched me to transcendental meditation. And the medication ended. And I’ve meditated along with her, you understand, for the subsequent…doing transcendental meditation by highschool.

So simply early on, I’ve actually been eager about sort of what’s behind, you understand, what’s beneath the hood of life. And my time with Clayten, when he was teaching me, was digging beneath that hood. It’s like, he used kinesiology or muscle testing to check my stage of consciousness in several areas of my life. And he would discover these hidden gems that I believed I hid so properly. The truth is, typically, they had been so properly hidden, they had been unconscious.

However discovering these low consciousness areas in my life then allowed me to consciously work and lift these areas up and expertise extra freedom and pleasure, you understand, and love in these areas of my life. That was type of the trail that took us to the FLFE know-how that we found, which is a consciousness know-how that prompts excessive consciousness fields. And I can hand it off to you, Clayten. You found it then introduced me in.

Clayten: Yeah, properly, as Katie stated, I used to be a industrial fisherman at one level in my life. And so, it does connect with my upbringing the place I discovered peace in nature. That was the place that I might all the time go. And plenty of that I discovered by fishing. I spent plenty of time strolling alongside the edges of rivers, and I believe in all probability the mix of train and getting the physique drained sufficient in order that the chatter of the thoughts is decreased. And being within the presence of fantastic thing about nature, that’s the place I discovered plenty of my peace as a younger man.

And there have been some choices after I was in highschool. Certainly one of them was touring and seeing a little bit of the world earlier than I decided as to what I needed to do on the planet. And so, I did journey for some time. And I used to be a type of people who… Now, it’s referred to as van life, again then it was a truck and camper. So, I like, “Oh, you understand, I wish to have a spot to sleep. I don’t wish to sleep in a tent.” So I purchased an outdated truck and an outdated camper and an outdated… I believe they name them beaters. I don’t know what they name beaters down the place you reside, however they name them beaters up right here.

So I drove round Canada for a couple of yr and, you understand, I did sort of labor-type jobs. So fishing was one in all them. I labored within the oil discipline, you understand. I did labor jobs. I used to be a younger man with not plenty of schooling and coaching, in order that’s the work that was obtainable to me.

And I acquired concerned in a philosophical group fairly, fairly deeply. I used to be actually eager about making an attempt to make sense of some issues in my life and on the planet. And so, I figured I wanted to get actually good at one explicit manner of taking a look at life. And so I select a philosophy and I acquired deeply concerned in that. And that led me into schooling.

I spent about 11 years from about ’84 to ’95 within the schooling discipline. I used to be a industrial fisherman for some time. And I sort of went again to that a part of my life as a result of I actually loved it. However my love for schooling and instructing and studying was greater. In order that led me into particular person teaching again in 1995, which is historical within the teaching world.

And since I’d spent 11 years on this Japanese-based philosophy, earlier than that in working in personal faculties, I selected a specialty of working with enterprise leaders who thought-about enterprise their religious path. And I selected that as a result of, on the planet, it appears that evidently enterprise has the ability proper now for good or for dangerous, proper? Up to now, it may need been the humanities or, you understand, sure time in our historical past, it was a faith or spiritual establishments.

So I figured I might do probably the most good on the planet with the least quantity of effort. I imply, it’s only one particular person. Not that I didn’t wish to make an effort, however you sort of search for that candy spot the place you are able to do probably the most good along with your effort. And for me, it was enterprise leaders who thought-about their enterprise as their religious path.

Jeff and I are gearheads. So we prefer to tinker with issues and machines. And I labored at a gasoline station like 4 years, half time, after I was in highschool. I took the educational half of highschool, however I additionally took store. I took auto store and machine store and electronics and blueprint studying. So it’s fairly oriented in the direction of that. My dad was a tradesman printer and so our household was sort of technical that manner.

And so, finally, you understand, and a mixture of exploring kinesiology and being eager about sort of machines and schooling, I got here throughout this inventor who was a part of a gaggle of inventors who…they had been making an attempt to create a free vitality machine for humanity. They usually didn’t try this. However they sort of stumbled upon a option to focus lifeforce vitality on objects.

Little did I do know that was the start of the FLFE, you understand, journey. Yeah, this man was simply type of energizing these crystals and placing them round his home. And his home was like superb. And it’s such a highly-charged atmosphere. So I acquired to know this gentleman, and we labored collectively for a couple of years after which I launched Jeff to him. And yeah, it’s a part of the journey.

Katie: I very a lot resonate along with your story in saying, like, “The place can my effort take advantage of distinction and supply probably the most love?” And for me, I’m in deep gratitude every single day that my work is with different girls and mothers. As a result of, for me, I believe that’s a part of my life function is that we assist mothers. We assist not simply mothers, however households and the tradition as a complete. And in order that’s why I used to be excited to get to have this dialog with you guys.

And also you talked about excessive consciousness fields, which I’m guessing is a brand new time period, doubtlessly, for lots of people listening. So I might love to start out very primary and broad and have you ever guys clarify that idea and perhaps give some examples to assist folks sort of perceive and anchor what which means.

Jeff: Mm hmm. We consider that consciousness is in all places. That it’s throughout us. And we comply with Dr. David Hawkins’ work. Certainly one of his books is “Energy vs. Power.” And he outlined consciousness fields and ranges of consciousness. And I might say that we expertise this every single day. That everybody experiences it every single day.

So when you’re strolling all over the world, and also you go into someplace that’s very elevated, it’s a excessive consciousness space. In order that may very well be, you understand, a synagogue or church or cathedral, notably among the cathedrals in Europe, very excessive as a result of they had been designed that manner with the structure and the type of the options of the earth the place they constructed the cathedrals.

So if you stroll into a spot like that, I skilled it in my physique, it’s like an vitality, like virtually an pleasure and a calmness. Like my thoughts begins to actually settle down. And I’ve observed that in cathedrals, after I was touring Europe, the place I might stroll within the door, I might really feel just like the nearer I acquired to the entrance of the…to the nave, the entrance of the church, the stronger it acquired, and clean or my thoughts went. And what that what that impact is strolling right into a excessive consciousness discipline that’s getting greater and better, the nearer you get to the place the place the priesthood would do his factor.

In low consciousness fields, you would expertise in an outdated jail, a battleground. Like, when you’ve ever been to a type of locations, there’s this type of a low-energy feeling like a heaviness, perhaps even feelings or ideas might come up. And we consider that thought varieties and feelings may be current traditionally in a location like that, or each location that human beings are such robust broadcasters of our vitality that it may be held in a crystalline construction of the constructing supplies or the bottom or drywall even.

So these are some examples strolling round. And it’s sort of that feeling folks speak about, like, “I don’t just like the vitality of this place.” or, “This feels actually good.” Properly, it’s a sense in our our bodies. And we consider our our bodies are very delicate devices to this as a result of it’s a part of our survival. Such as you stroll into a spot that doesn’t really feel good, you get on edge, you understand, you’re like trying over your shoulder, like, what’s happening right here? And that, you understand, helps us to take care of what could be coming. So we consider these fields are in all places. And what the FLFE know-how does is to activate a excessive consciousness discipline just like the cathedral really feel.

Katie: Clayten, do you have got any follow-up to that earlier than I ask add-on query?

Clayten: You realize, I’ve some sensible examples of this. And perhaps one that will not be distinctive to girls, however I believe they’ll admire. A sensible instance of a excessive consciousness discipline can be your considering… There’s an simple bond, in my expertise, and within the expertise of each mom I’ve ever talked to, between a mom and her little one. It’s not that males don’t have a connection as properly. Nevertheless it’s only a completely different connection.

So if you’re considering of someone, and also you’re questioning how they’re doing, and also you’re sending them a optimistic thought, after which they name you, they stated, “I used to be simply enthusiastic about you,” proper? I’ve by no means talked to a mom who doesn’t find out about that.  So that will be an instance of a excessive consciousness discipline.

Now, I imply, that might flip to fret. As an alternative of like consciousness, it might flip to fret and concern. However I might say that the FLFE know-how has some parallels to the capability that people should create a connection between love and one other particular person or one other area.

And I don’t know why I’m simply having this thought to inform you the story. So I’ve some buddies on Salt Spring Island in Canada. I used to stay in Vancouver. I’m up in Nelson now. That’s the place the pinnacle workplace of the corporate is.

And I went over to Salt Spring Island to go to these folks. And this girl, she was…there was a gaggle of birthing. There was a birthing class there. I don’t know in the event that they referred to as them doulas or it was simply girls who assist infants get born. There’s a reputation for it, it would come to me. Midwives.

So this girl was on this group. And it simply so occurred that morning, one of many mornings I used to be there, there was a start that occurred. She’d been up many of the night time, and this child had been born. And she or he got here again to the home for a minute as a result of she needed to get one thing and he or she went to return.

And the vitality that she got here in with was, it was extraordinary. And it’s like, I stated, “What simply occurred? You’re simply glowing.” She stated, “Properly, this child simply acquired born.” And she or he stated, “It’s like a miracle.” You realize, it’s an vitality of like miraculous magnificence and love. And I used to be similar to, to this present day, I similar to, I can simply take into consideration that and I can really feel it.

And she or he stated, “You realize, I’m simply considering of getting one other little one. It’s such a good looking factor to carry into the world.” And for some cause, I’m getting… I’ve by no means instructed that story to very many individuals, however I believe, for you, Katie, that simply feels so related as a result of plenty of the folks you serve are moms.

And if a mom has skilled that, she’s skilled a unprecedented vitality discipline. As a result of I believe, when a toddler will get born, one thing occurs that’s superb. And I haven’t seen a start. And I haven’t actually been shut to at least one. However that’s the closest I’ve ever been perhaps inside quarter-hour, half an hour.

So, FLFE can’t create that kind of atmosphere, however it does create like a sanctuary, a sacred, like a holy place sort of atmosphere in its personal manner. It relies upon, you understand. Folks have plenty of affect on it. We simply can’t make the atmosphere be a sure manner. However we are able to definitely have it’s a kind of, you understand, a consciousness stage that’s unconditionally loving. After which it’s as much as all people else so as to add to what they will and what they need from there.

Katie: I really like that you just used that for instance. I’m really a doula and have began supply coaching. In all probability, the six most impactful moments of my life are the six moments that my youngsters had been born. And I believe you’re precisely spot on. And I’ve now had the respect of being at many births as properly, and holding area for these girls. And there’s a very particular shift in that room, particularly like main as much as and round that second of start.

And I keep in mind very clearly, when my first little one was born, that simply overwhelming feeling of affection and bliss and peace and like that connection that was fast to him. And like having that realization of, “Wow. I really like folks in my life. However I’ve by no means skilled this stage of affection till this second.”

And it was neat as a result of that then, I really feel like, rippled out to different relationships in my life. Prefer it upgraded my capability to like everybody, not simply my child. And so after we speak about consciousness, I believe you’re proper. Mothers can resonate with that innate feeling that perhaps you’ll be able to’t tangibly put into phrases so simply, however you understand that feeling on the subject of your youngsters.

I do really feel like in all probability everybody has heard of the time period consciousness by now. It’s simply tossed round quite a bit. I believe typically perhaps it will get misused or tied into plenty of different issues. However let’s go just a little deeper on the concept of consciousness You talked about Dr. Hawkins. Form of stroll us by how that is measured or perhaps simply give us some tangible metrics. As a result of I believe it may possibly really feel like an summary idea to lots of people. So I’d like to sort of like anchor that in and make it as tangible as attainable earlier than we soar into extra specifics.

Jeff: I might begin and hand it off to you, Clayten. Yeah, these examples, you understand, that second of a child being born, which I’ve skilled twice with my very own youngsters. And I used to be simply getting goosebumps whereas we had been speaking about it.

So, you understand, there’s a consciousness discipline there that will get activated. After which we are able to take into consideration that and entry it ourselves later, such as you stated. And as we stated, there’s excessive fields just like the cathedrals. There’s decrease locations, like, you understand, the place there’s been grief or torture, you understand, tragedy of some form. The truth is, in Japan, if somebody commits suicide in an house, folks gained’t lease it as a result of there’s extra more likely to be one other suicide. In order that’s a consciousness discipline there.

So Dr. David Hawkins created the Map of Consciousness that goes from one, you understand, there’s all the time some consciousness to infinity. So you would say the divinity is infinity. And within the human realm, it’s to 1000. And so forth that scale, which is logarithmic, every level upward is 10 instances extra vitality current within the discipline. So down under, 200 on that map, you understand, there’s lethargy and despair and among the decrease vitality, decrease consciousness discipline. So like, when you’re round someone that’s depressed, that heavy feeling, that’s a low consciousness discipline. After which, as you progress over 200, you’re transferring into hope and into the love zone at 500. And I’ll allow you to take it from there, Clayten, you’ve acquired a lot expertise on this.

Clayten: We do plenty of kinesiology testing, Katie, within the firm. And so, unconditional love begins round 540. And round 600, you begin to get into peace, 700 on the Hawkins map is enlightenment. And from 700 to 1000 are type of the realms of the mystic enlightened beings who lived on the planet, the Buddhas, the Krishnas, the Jesus, these kinds of beings.

If you happen to’re taking a look at among the feelings under 200, usually, the size of consciousness begins at 20 at disgrace, then 50 is sort of apathy, 100 is worry, 150 is anger, 190 is sort of extreme pleasure. And it’s simply sort of that 200 mark is the place issues turn out to be optimistic.

So we’ve got braveness at 200, 250 is impartial, 300 is willingness. Yeah, 300-350 is willingness, like nearer to 350. Then 400 is cause, if you get into logic and the professions like accounting, you understand, skilled requirements, authorized occupation. And 500 is love.

And so, the FLFE atmosphere, we assure it, it will likely be at… So we’ve got a consciousness slider the place you’ll be able to really slide the extent of consciousness and transfer it up and down in your property. It’s going to by no means take vitality away. However it would add it as much as that stage to make sure it’s at that stage or extra. And you’ll transfer it from 400 to 570.

So the default for FLFE is 550. And that’s the space of unconditional love, so it’s 550 out of 1000. We assure that 98% of the time, or no matter stage you set it at, 98% of the time over a 24-hour interval. As a result of issues do occur in a home or in any atmosphere the place there’s a disruption for just a little bit.

And also you wish to positively affect the atmosphere, however you don’t wish to take folks’s management away. I imply, you’re a sovereign particular person. It’s not anyone’s place to regulate it. However we do add plenty of like to it. After which, from there, it’s what folks make of it.

We even have issues like boosts. You may increase the consciousness for half an hour as much as 600. So these issues like… As a result of we’ve got a management panel, you go in, and also you get to be your personal consciousness experimenter, or I suppose… Will we name it that, Jeff? Will we name it that? Yeah, that’s kinda the identify for it, however you get to experiment with ranges of consciousness in your personal manner of regarding it.

Katie: I consider that as I typically speak concerning the diet and bodily well being facet. And I say typically to folks, “You’re your personal major healthcare supplier and your personal well being researcher. And you’ll work with superb practitioners and companions in that. However on the finish of the day, that experimentation and that accountability resides in every of us individually, and nobody else can take over that accountability for us.” And so I really feel like that is making use of that very same concept to this different realm that perhaps folks haven’t thought-about.

And also you talked about kinesiology, and I’ll admit that is an space I haven’t finished a ton of analysis on it, and I do know I like have it prior to now no less than been skeptical about, and I’m making an attempt to know higher. So I might love so that you can clarify kinesiology and the way that course of works just a little bit when you don’t thoughts.

Jeff: So sort of going again to the sensitivity that all of us have, so if you stroll into that room, and it doesn’t really feel proper or the vitality feels good. So we consider our our bodies are devices, robust devices, for measuring consciousness round us, these consciousness fields.

And kinesiology is a muscle testing. So this has, you understand, been pioneered by quite a lot of folks. And Dr. Hawkins took it to a different stage the place it’s the power of the muscle within the presence of reality. So the idea is that we’re linked in our core to all that’s, whether or not it’s dimensional or it’s divine, nonetheless you consider it. We’re linked to all that’s. And that presence of reality is strengthening to the system. And the presence of falsehood is weakening. So it’s the precept of the power of the muscle, you understand, within the presence of an announcement.

So the assertion, you understand, it’s both true or it’s not true. And there could also be gradation. So we measure on a scale the place we’d say, you understand, on a scale of 1 to 1000, Dr. David Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness, stage of consciousness of this property over the earlier 24 hours calibrates at, you understand, robust 200 or extra, robust 400 or extra, robust 500 or extra, weak 600 or extra. After which again up, you understand, 520 or extra robust, 530 or extra, 540 or extra robust, 550 weak. It’s between 540 and 550.

So, we’ve got a crew of people who do that testing. And what we do is we check individually, after which, you understand, evaluate. So we’re doing the testing of the properties, after which Clayten and I’ve finished tens of millions of those sorts of exams on the event of FLFE. And yeah, it’s a bit on the market.

However you see it in allergists. I went to an allergist the place he had a cuff on me that measured the stress of his finger in order that it wouldn’t…you understand, he wasn’t urgent tougher on my arm to maintain it, you understand, make it go down. After which, he would hand me these jars of supplies, and I might put it near my chest, and I’d be robust, robust, till I acquired a jar that I used to be allergic to, after which it might be weak. In order that was an attention-grabbing type of a manner of measuring the power the that you just’re placing on the arm. And if in case you have one other query or we are able to cross it on to Clayten.

Clayten: One other sensible instance of kinesiology that’s utilized in day-to-day life is allergists but in addition nutritionists. If you happen to go to a nutritionist, they’ll maintain dietary supplements in entrance of you, and so they’ll scale them as to how good they’re.

And I’ve been going to chiropractors for, I don’t know, 20-something years. And though my favourite ones and those that I maintain going again to are those that do kinesiology. You’re on the desk. They do a few commonplace changes. After which, you understand, usually, if I’m mendacity there, they’ll put my arm up, and so they’ll push it down and see how robust it’s. And if it’s weak, then they’ll do a few changes, after which it’s stronger, proper? They usually’ll go to the opposite arm or they’ll go to the leg. And, you understand, that’s a type of kinesiology.

I don’t know a lot about chiropractic, however I used to be instructed there’s seven faculties of chiropractic, and one in all them is kinesiology targeted. And that’s the way it seems like in a chiropractor’s workplace, the place they’ll assess your physique. They make an adjustment. They check the power of the muscle. And that’s how they know the adjustment is completed. And so it’s used quite a bit on the planet. It’s simply the consciousness side of it’s, it’s sort of distinctive. Properly, it’s an rising discipline. I wouldn’t say it’s distinctive, it’s rising.

Katie: Yeah, and I believe I’ve solely ever actually had publicity to it within the chiropractic context. And I’m glad I’ve you guys right here to ask this as a result of I’ve been so genuinely interested by this for a very long time. And sort of the concept that’s been popularized just lately of the concept of Biology of Perception, and if we consider one thing, that may affect.

And so I’ve all the time puzzled, on the subject of kinesiology and muscle testing, does bias on the a part of both the particular person being examined, or the tester come into play in any respect? I do know you stated it’s centered in reality and true statements. I’ve simply been very interested by that. Like if somebody believes one thing is sweet for them, would the physique reply extra strongly? Or, if the tester believes one thing is sweet for them, does that affect it in any respect?

Clayten: One of many methods you’ll take care of that’s you’ll do what we name blind testing. Let’s say that I used to be the calibrator. I used to be making the assertion. You had been the topic, Katie, I’ll be pushing your arm down. And Jeff was the auditor. Proper? In order that’s how we are going to usually study kinesiology collectively. So you have got a calibrator, a topic, and an auditor.

So on this case, the auditor wouldn’t have a lot of a job. However what I might do is I might make the optimistic declarative assertion solely in my thoughts. You wouldn’t know what I’m saying. In order that’s one option to handle bias. And one other manner is to actually have your declarative statements be pristine of their accuracy. If you happen to get adequate at this, you’ll be able to measure the extent of consciousness of your statements.

And, you understand, over time, there are methods to… You realize, after we do our property testing, there’s often no less than three of us. So there’s methods of searching for statistical validation by imply averages of teams. There’s methods to handle it. And to say that bias doesn’t matter, I don’t assume can be a good assertion. You simply should study to handle bias.

Like if there’s a subject, you’ll be able to check your stage of consciousness of reality on that matter, proper? After which you’ll be able to check the extent of aware…of your intent in the direction of an end result. So there’s a bunch of issues you are able to do to extend the chances of you getting good information within the atmosphere, together with testing unknown controls, you understand, earlier than you go in.

So it’s a occupation. Lots of people simply assume, “Oh, I might simply decide up a e-book and study it and a half an hour.” It’s like, properly, perhaps you’ll be able to, however if you wish to get good at it, my sense is it takes a few years. That’s what your expertise is, Jeff, like.

Jeff: Yeah, I believe the bias, it’s an essential query. And a few of these biases are unconscious. And that’s why we’ve got teams, you understand, as a result of… and we’ll be engaged on one thing and two of us get one reply, one particular person will get one other, “All proper, let’s cease. Let’s…” You realize, may very well be that one particular person has turn out to be dehydrated as a result of the physique must be in actually good condition, so having hydration at a sure stage. If it will get low sufficient…I don’t know when you’ve ever skilled that we get cranky, if you get, you’re thirsty. That’s like, that’s a swap. So that you’ve gone adverse. So that you really get the alternative end in kinesiology when that occurs.

Yeah, it’s an attention-grabbing topic. And we’ve been deep in it for 10 years or so, and Clayten for much longer earlier than that, however he taught me learn how to do it. After which we’ve got a crew of individuals within the enterprise that help us.

And it’s actually an attention-grabbing software. I imply, you’ll be able to actually uncover issues, the reality of one thing. And on the subject of analysis within the enterprise… So we work with Dr. Gary Schwartz on our analysis crew. He’s written quite a lot of books within the College of Arizona. And he’s been a terrific bridge between science and a few of these new vitality therapeutic methods. He’s finished fairly a little bit of analysis with biophoton cameras and Reiki and different kinds of methods. And he’s actually eager to do a kinesiology research with us this yr. So we’re probably to try this this yr.

Katie: It does really feel like we’re in a spot the place we’re beginning to see that merge of know-how and science, understanding issues which have actually sort of an age outdated and plenty of different practices. And it’s actually fascinating to me to get to look at that development occur. And I might go, in all probability ask a ton extra questions on kinesiology.

However I wish to be sure that we really get again to this know-how, as a result of I believe you defined actually clearly that feeling. And I’m certain folks can consider instances of their lives. Like, I’ve additionally walked into cathedrals and felt that shift and even locations in nature, the place I felt, shift, or felt it when my youngsters had been born. But additionally, we are able to’t, sadly, typically, all of us stay in these locations the place consistently simply have infants to get to expertise that. So I’d love to speak about the way you guys are merging the know-how with this consciousness sort of age-old science that has all the time existed to create this, and the way we are able to all create these greater consciousness fields in our personal lives.

Clayten: Properly, we sort of stumbled upon a know-how that existed. The intent, as I stated, was to create a free vitality machine for humanity. And this gentleman’s intent was to…he was a male, proper, software and die maker, electrician. He was an older German man who was extremely succesful by way of technical abilities. And the best way he associated to divinity was actually by making stuff. You realize, that’s simply how we did it. And a few persons are farmers or household man or household girls or, no matter, businesspeople. And his manner was to make stuff. I believe it’s essential to keep in mind that intent issues quite a bit. And divinity expresses by all the pieces. It expresses by nature. It’s kinda simpler to seek out, for me, there. Some folks specific this by know-how.

And this know-how was born out of intent to serve. And he spent plenty of years at it, and I helped him refine it fairly a bit, quite a bit. After which we took it to a complete different stage. So there may be an rising group of applied sciences which might be in a position to assist humanity, similar to the interior combustion engine supported humanity. And I’m simply speaking from an actual broad spectrum right here. Jeff, I’ll hand it over to you in a minute.

I imply, we’re speaking on computer systems which have fiber optics, you understand, or cables going into the bottom, or the radio transmissions going to the air. And we’re in a position to be of service to your viewers, Katie, and also you’re in a position to assist, you understand, the ladies in your life that you just wish to join with. So, you understand, we’re fairly oriented in the direction of service and divinity and a better energy and excessive consciousness fields. In order that’s the best way that we see the world. And that’s the best way that we body it.

And there’s all kinds of applied sciences on the market. We simply purchased a Skinner machine, which is a makes use of a optimistic electrical stimulus to assist strengthen, I suppose, the construction of the physique the place it’s used. I’ve simply been entering into Jerry Tennant’s work just a little bit extra. He talks concerning the significance of voltage within the physique, and learn how to create your optimistic voltage. So there’s numerous rising applied sciences on the market that may assist us to be more healthy. And, you understand, we’re one in all them.

Jeff: So it truly is similar to human consciousness and that mechanism of considering of somebody after which, you understand, feeling love and sending them love. What we consider occurs is there’s a discipline activated round the individual that’s full of affection. And that’s what they really feel, and so they profit from that. And, you understand, distant prayer, among the analysis on simply distant prayer and Reiki and different energetic medication, at a distance is similar mechanism.

There’s a system. There’s a bodily FLFE system that’s, you would say, a quantum vitality system, a consciousness system. So, it has, initially, the unique inventor was working with comparable know-how to Nikola Tesla. Initially, it was excessive pace alternating present operating by coils and plates. And it was creating an lively discipline by that oscillation.

And it’s advanced since then to not want the electrical energy in that manner. However primarily ideas, similar to us figuring out somebody, you understand, we consider sister or brother, the FLFE system makes use of distinctive identifier. So it could be a telephone quantity, which identifies a mobile machine. It could be an handle that identifies a property. It could be coordinates, you understand, and the area across the coordinates. And so with that identification, then there’s a quantum connection and the sector’s activated at that location. So similar to human consciousness, our system works.

And so we’re placing into this method written directions that determine that location, that has the distinctive identifier in it. And, you understand, that’s activating the sector. We’ve finished quite a lot of experiments alongside the best way to say, “How can we quantify this?” You realize, how are you going to see this? It’s so esoteric sounding, proper?

Properly, what we’ve finished is these blinded experiments now with crops rising. And in order that activation of the sector in an atmosphere, crops are rising a lot sooner. You realize, we noticed in very early preliminary experiments, 29% enhance in progress. And we’re seeing an identical sort of 14% to 29% enhance in yield in a big farm research that we did this previous yr, the place we had farmers doing natural grains, historical grains, and a part of fields on FLFE, and a part of it wasn’t. So we had controls. They usually had been measuring the bushels per acre with their subtle farm gear. And there was like 14% to twenty-eight% enhance in yield.

I imply, in order that was, the farmer didn’t know which, you understand, acres the place which. And that was a follow-on to a few of these different plant experiments the place life is benefiting. You may see it within the plant progress. And that got here out of the tales of FLFE clients. So, FLFE is a subscription service. So, I suppose, we must always say that the place folks…it’s $35, for the very best finish. After which for households, we’ve got some lower cost ranges for youngsters’s telephones and issues like that, all the way down to $10 or $12 a month.

However that activation within the discipline, folks had been seeing their crops rising, and so they had been seeing their yards trying greener, and their shrubs trying greener in comparison with the place down the road. And that’s what led us to those, you understand, experiments. And that’s type of the pathway for us is, we heard first from the purchasers and from our personal experiences within the discipline. After which we’ve taken it into analysis. And we’ve finished some work with IONS, the Institute of Noetic Sciences. They’ve finished experiments on the FLFE atmosphere. After which Dr. Gary Schwartz and our analysis crew are engaged on quite a lot of different experiments.

Clayten: Properly, there’s a analysis tab on our web site the place you’ll be able to go in and take a look at the analysis that we did with the Institute of Noetic Sciences and with a gasoline discharge visualization digicam in an atmosphere which confirmed much less chaos within the atmosphere, extra concord. We’ve got six or seven experiments up there. Anyway, we had one the place folks had, you understand, these issues that they put in your physique, and so they measure your brainwaves.

Jeff: EEG.

Clayten: EEG, yeah. I used to be gonna say EKG, however it was EEG. So there was a rise in sure brainwaves which might be related to, you understand, peace and concord, government features as properly. So there’s extra alpha waves than the earlier one. So there’s fairly a little bit of analysis that we even have finished. So it’s not simply us saying one thing with out having proof to again it up.

Jeff: And the mind analysis at IONS actually got here out of oldsters speaking about adjustments of their youngsters, notably round homework and faculty efficiency. So when there’s extra life-force vitality in an area, so we talked about going right into a cathedral and there’s that actually enlivened feeling. When there’s extra life-force vitality obtainable, it comes into the physique and, you understand, people who observe yoga would possibly know it’s prana. In Chinese language medication, it’s Qi. And that circulation of Qi by the physique is basically essential for our well being.

When there’s extra Qi, prana, lifeforce vitality, they’re all the identical factor. Within the atmosphere, our physique is pulling that in and utilizing it, together with for cognition. And when there’s elements of the mind which might be starved for vitality as a result of they’re working actually laborious, one in all our FLFE, what we name packages, our ideas within the discipline, is for extra vitality to go to the areas the place there’s the least vitality obtainable. And in order that has proven up in folks simply feeling like they’ve extra vitality by the day and efficiency.

At IONS – and this was a small research, and we have to comply with it up with a bigger research, that’s the sort of course of we’re on is you do a preliminary research – there was a rise in cognitive operate with a research group who had been in an FLFE atmosphere in comparison with people who weren’t or in comparison with being not in an FLFE atmosphere prior. In order that lifeforce vitality obtainable to the physique is among the common rules that we speak about. Plenty of yogis and other people in several Japanese philosophies need to focus prana by chanting and breath management, you understand, particular respiratory practices. Feng Shui is designed to pay attention extra vitality in an area. After which, we’re a know-how so as to add much more vitality.

Katie: I’ll be sure that I, you understand, have that analysis tab you talked about. I’ll guarantee that’s linked within the present notes for everyone listening, that’s wellnessmama.fm, you guys can discover all of that. And I wish to be sure that we speak about EMFs too. So I’m gonna put that on the within the car parking zone to return again to in a minute.

However first, I’d love to know, I discover it so fascinating, this concept of merging the know-how with these fields of consciousness. And so, I do know it’s additionally just a little bit sophisticated. However are you able to clarify just a little bit extra tangibly for individuals who might have bother greedy, together with me, on how that is then, like, targeted? Like, the place’s it coming from? How’s it created? After which how can we focus it on someplace that’s far-off? As a result of that is tremendous fascinating.

Clayten: Properly, we’ve got a machine. And as Jeff stated, it has all these coils and stacks. It pulls vitality from what some folks name the ether. It simply pulls vitality from the atmosphere. And it focuses it and finally concentrates it in an space the place there’s a fairly a excessive consciousness discipline. After which from there, it goes out these stacks. We name them output stacks. So, enter stacks and output stacks. After which the underside of the output stack, there’s an space, it was once about this large. Katie, it was like three inches by 5 inches, one thing like that. After we’re experimenting, we’d put three by 5 playing cards in there. And we make these little requests to divinity.

You realize, “Pricey divinity, please, assist this particular person with, you understand, they’ve acquired an issue with their liver. They acquired actually dangerous psoriasis, please assist them with their psoriasis.” And we put that within the machine. And you place the particular person’s image in as a result of they needed to come into this adventurous place. They heard about them. And they’d really feel a optimistic profit, and perhaps a few of their psoriasis went away.

So then we, you understand, did extra analysis on well being and perhaps found that, “Properly, in case your liver is extra energized, then it helps with the psoriasis.” So we are able to make these extra subtle requests over time. And someday, this gentleman was, properly, he was taking these crystals and charging them up and placing them round his home. And that’s when Jeff came visiting to the area. It was a unprecedented area. And he would cost up these crystals. And so someday he had this piece of a damaged tabletop, it’s a granite counter. And he put it on this area and was charging it up.

And he pulled it out, and the telephone rang, and it was a buddy, and he was speaking to his buddy, and he was on the telephone for 10 or quarter-hour, and he had this piece of marble in his hand. And when he hung the telephone up, he realized that the arthritis in his hand was gone, couldn’t really feel any extra ache. And it was as a result of he was holding on to this piece of crystal with this super-high vitality round it. And so, he put it in his different hand and went away. After which, you understand, after about two weeks, he observed that the cost went out of the crystal. However within the meantime, he’s been sending crystals to his buddies, to folks everywhere in the world, and so they had been holding it and their arthritic ache would go away.

So we don’t make well being claims. However what he did was he put an image of…he put the folks within the machine, after which folks would ship it again. Or he would ship them a brand new one. It was costing like some huge cash in courier charges, which is sort of ridiculous, proper? As a result of when you ship it by mail, and so they solely lasted two weeks, we’re gonna have every week when it acquired to ship in a single day, and it might price some huge cash.

So then we discovered that we might take an image of the crystal, and if it was a excessive sufficient decision, you would put that within the machine, and it might cost a crystal from the opposite facet of the planet. So he had all these footage of all these crystals within the machine and other people had been holding on that and their arthritis was going away. And in order that’s the way it works, Katie. It was primarily based upon the precept, as Jeff stated earlier, of the distinctive identifier. So that you needed to have an image of the crystal.

What we finally discovered is we might put… So we made this output, this excessive consciousness discipline on the backside of the output stack greater and larger and larger. So it’s like three toes tall. We’re placing all these addresses in it, you understand, and we made our personal machine and taking them out. It was like such a nuisance. Then someday, we figured that we might put directions in there to inform the know-how to go to the database and take the instruction from the database and create that very same discipline wherever on the planet. In order that was the evolution of it.

So now we’ve got this database, and we make these requests to divinity as Jeff stated. Like, “You realize, please do that. Please try this. Please do that.” All these good issues you’ll be able to think about that you’d ask for somebody that you just cared about. That’s what we do. We requested for all these items to occur. And, you understand, we are able to’t actually management what occurs. We do have plenty of affect over the extent of consciousness on the atmosphere. After which we make all these requests. After which, it appears that evidently if the particular person has alignment with these request, they occur faster. And if the particular person is basically proof against the optimistic requests, properly, that’s their very own free will. Proper. So we are able to’t make you have got the life you need, however it does offer you 10 instances extra vitality with each enhance in your stage of consciousness.

So, let’s say, proper now, the typical house in America is about 250 out of 1000 on the Hawkins’ map. Now, again in 2019, it in all probability would have been, I do know, 350 or 380, like that’s the typical, proper? So that you’re going up, maybe two or 300 factors on the Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness in a house. And each a type of factors is 10 instances extra vitality. So it’s a really delicate vitality. However you have got that rather more vitality to concentrate on the belongings you need and create the life that you just’re intending. In order that’s sort of the way it works.

Katie: Jeff, did you have got any follow-up, or can I transfer into the EMF angle?

Jeff: No, I believe that’s nice to maneuver into that as a result of it pertains to the way it works, too.

Katie: Yeah, I figured that can result in some good follow-up. I do know for mothers, plenty of mothers, it is a top-of-mind matter as a result of, clearly, we’ve got far more of those EMFs in our life than we did a pair a long time in the past and definitely than we did a pair 100 years in the past. And now with 5G, that’s a giant matter for lots of mothers and kinda the fixed publicity to those completely different EMFs.

So I might love to listen to, I do know you guys have finished analysis on this and that there’s a manner that this really might help with this EMF equation, however are you able to stroll us by and clarify what’s happening in that state of affairs?

Jeff: Sure. In order we talked about, we’re testing properties for his or her stage of consciousness to achieve our promised stage. On daily basis, new properties are available in on. Each week, on Saturday, all of the properties on the system. And we observed, we had been getting properties that weren’t on the stage. They had been 10 factors, 20 factors decrease. And so we’d discover a property by utilizing kinesiology. We’d name the shopper. And we’d ask if something’s modified. They usually had been telling us, very persistently, {that a} good meter, you understand, financial institution was put in final week, or a brand new cell tower simply acquired turned down throughout the road, or we simply acquired a brand new router. That there was a connection between a decrease consciousness atmosphere and a brand new EMF affect.

And so, we realized that, you understand, that’s an indicator of a decrease well being stage, decrease vitality stage, and fewer lifeforce vitality there. That’s sort of our perspective on EMFs, that we take a look at vitality or consciousness reducing EMFs. As a result of some issues, some EMFs, are optimistic, you understand. The vitality that our hearts emit after we’re feeling love. And there’s energies from the earth, vibrations from the earth which might be optimistic, from the solar.

So what we did is we researched, you understand, what’s the most applicable materials to harmonize EMFs? So you would attempt to block and deflect, take in – when you’re deflecting, it’s going to someone else’s home is to harmonize it or to place an overlay on it that has it turn out to be optimistic. And so shungite is the fabric that we found in our analysis that many individuals have additionally used. And it’s one thing you’ll be able to experiment with at house. You may get sheets of shungite, and you may put it on to a router, or onto a wise meter financial institution.

And what we’ve finished with the FLFE know-how is, so like I stated, it’s important to again up just a bit. So we consider that there’s an lively essence related to each materials. And you’ll take a look at homeopathy and different implies that use very, very low quantities of fabric to have an impact the place the physique is signaled by that materials, that we consider that’s the energetic essence of that materials.

And so, you perhaps are entering into multidimensional, maybe, matters. However we had been in a position, we consider, to seize the interdimensional essence of shungite and so as to add it to the service. After which to request it to maneuver into EMF sources which might be reducing consciousness. So we talked about this on webinars. You realize that we had been planning this and the best way we work is we do it on ourselves, in our environments, then we increase to our employees. After which we increase it to our clients. However we didn’t…. Folks had been simply speaking about it. They usually stated, “Wow, I’m having a horrible time with EMFs. I wish to do that as quickly as attainable.”

So we did a beta group with clients who had been self-selecting. You realize, they had been saying, “I actually am struggling terribly.” And so, we did. And there’s a survey in our EMF part about that. So we did a survey after folks got here on. So we did this small group the place we added the EMF mitigation, we name it, to the atmosphere with the energetic essence of shungite. And we additionally raised the extent of consciousness of the EMF-emitting units. And in some unspecified time in the future, they turn out to be optimistic. So there’s some overlay of optimistic vitality, we don’t fairly perceive the way it works, that’s on high of this EMF wave.

However we all the time wish to check. So we had this preliminary survey. And folks had been saying that it was the most effective sleep, you understand, that they had been in a position to sleep the subsequent night time higher than they’ve in simply years. In different folks the place simply, “My ache went away.” “My nervousness stage dropped.” “My mind fog lessened.” And a few of that took a while to occur. However we consider that in an atmosphere the place EMFs are mitigated, that the physique begins to restore the injury of all of the perturbation that’s occurring to us every single day. And for me, personally, it’s nervousness. I really feel like rigidity in my muscle mass after I’m in an atmosphere that’s excessive in EMFs. And if I flip off/activate EMF mitigation with FLFE, then I really feel myself stress-free. And that’s what lots of people reported.

And plenty of nervousness with youngsters too. We get plenty of testimonials the place folks say when the service first got here on, youngsters grew to become much less anxious, much less irritable, simpler to work with. So we’ve got that analysis, and we’ve got some managed blinded research coming by a researcher on the College of Pennsylvania with, once more, folks which might be EMF delicate. They usually gained’t know whether or not they’re on the service or not. It’s going to be a six-month research. So we’re within the strategy of getting that going.

Clayten: We do have some analysis on our web site at the moment, Katie. We discovered that with the character of the delicate vitality of FLFE that it’s important to discover the proper units to measure that affect. Some units simply don’t decide it up. So we discovered {that a} gasoline discharge visualization digicam was one thing that might actually measure the affect.

So we did a gasoline discharge visualization digicam research, which is on our web site. We did it with Melissa Waterman, who was the practitioner who labored with Dr. Joe Dispenza, when he was making an attempt to measure the affect of consciousness fields. He may not have referred to as it that. However they might be in an atmosphere, and they might do, you understand, experiments the place they might measure the atmosphere with the GDV digicam. After which they would go away the atmosphere and focus vitality on it and see what would occur within the atmosphere with a GDV digicam.

So there have been experiments like that. I’m 99% certain he did that. I’m not the one to talk to it, until I’m 100%. However they did experiments like that the place they had been taking a look at what’s the impact of this instructing, and what’s the impact of meditation, and what’s the impact of intent on an atmosphere. So we use the identical practitioner, and we’ve got proof of that on our web site, as properly. So, I imply, we’re speaking about plenty of nonlinear esoteric ideas. And these specific within the 3D bodily world, and we’ve got, you understand, proof that pertains to proving that. And we’ve got extra coming.

It appears like we was once so enthusiastic about our proof, after which we’ve got a lot extra coming. It’s like, “Oh, it’s new proof. That’s actually thrilling.” We had this already good proof, proper? However we’re getting an increasing number of, so we’re seeking to have what we name a gold commonplace in analysis and improvement on this space. And it takes time as a result of it’s a comparatively new space of science and there’s not as many sources there are in different areas.

Jeff: So we really feel that subscribers are the most effective or somebody making an attempt to…is the most effective researcher. So we constructed that into it the place there’s a free trial. There’s no bank card. There’s no automated billing. You really should work to turn out to be a subscriber after the free trial is over.

However the folks have a management panel, and so they can flip EMF mitigation off and so they can flip it again on, flip it on and off as a lot as they need and see how they really feel. As a result of we actually need folks to attempt it out. And you’ll flip the service on and off, you are able to do the increase that we stated, to lift the extent. You may decrease the extent. In order that to us is the primary stage of analysis, is, what’s the FLFE group feeling, and provides them the instruments that they will use to try this.

And we discover that, primarily, girls, our viewers, you understand, our group is usually girls. It’s proper within the excessive 80%. They don’t inform their household on a regular basis. In order that they actually look to see what’s occurring with their youngsters and perhaps with their husband, their companion. In order that they do blinded research. You realize, it’s a option to see what’s occurring. And among the tales are actually touching.

Katie: I really like that. And that ties into our earlier dialog about being your personal major healthcare supplier and well being researcher. That’s a terrific circle that we created there.

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And I really feel just like the EMF matter might turn out to be its personal complete podcast. And hopefully it will likely be, as you guys do continued analysis on this, I’d like to circle again on it. However I really like that you just talked about the concept of harmonizing versus simply blocking as a result of I believe, I’ve stated this earlier than, like EMFs are a factor that exists in our fashionable world. We will’t totally cover from them. Even when we lived in the course of nowhere, they now are in area and directed on the planet, we are able to’t keep away from them.

In order that brings the query of how can we mitigate? Or I really like the phrase harmonize much more. After which extra precisely, like, how can we check that transferring ahead? As a result of we’re speaking about very nuanced know-how and easy EMF meters, they may check the presence of these issues, they won’t check the impact on the physique. And I believe that’s the precise essential query as a result of one thing could be current. But when it’s not harmfully affecting the physique or been positively affecting the physique, we’re not likely measuring what we predict we’re measuring. And so, I really like that you just guys are getting very particular in that analysis.

And I really like that you just introduced up issues like grounding and the solar, that are great sources of EMFs that I believe typically get discounted. And I’m a giant fan of telling folks, “If you get up, go outdoors within the daylight barefoot for quarter-hour, and that’s the most effective medicines you may get and it’s free.” And that you just sort of tie in that idea into this know-how, which I do know you’ve talked about.

I’ll guarantee that that free trial is linked within the present notes for you guys listening. That hyperlink shall be at wellnessmama.fm. And you can too study. There’s a lot extra info in your web site than we’ve got time to enter in an hour’s podcast. However like I stated, perhaps we are able to circle again and go very, very deep on EMFs, as an increasing number of analysis develops from you guys.

However I do really feel like we had an incredible start line and engaging dialog about this matter. I do know, like I stated at the start, it is a new idea for lots of people. It may be laborious to know. You talked about some sources, together with Dr. Hawkins’ work. I’ll hyperlink to that within the present notes as properly, for anyone who’s not acquainted, and wish to do some actually, actually enjoyable studying. And I wish to respect your time and the viewers time immediately. However earlier than we wrap up, I might love to listen to if there are any books which have had a very profound affect on both of your lives and in that case, what they’re and why.

Clayton: Perhaps, I’ll begin, we’ve been speaking about kinesiology quite a bit. And Dr. Hawkins’ first e-book, “Energy vs. Power,” it’s a New York Occasions bestseller. I fairly properly canine eared my copy. The pages are falling out as a result of I’ve had it open. You realize, I opened it up and overlook to shut it. And, in fact, that impacts binding. So that will be one for me.

I might say another Hawkins. Dr. Hawkins has a e-book I believe it’s referred to as, “Therapeutic and Restoration” or Well being and Therapeutic. I’m drawing a clean proper now. It’s a inexperienced one with the inexperienced stripe. That’s been a giant one. For any time that I’ve had a well being problem, I’ll go on to that. Properly, I’ll cross over to you, Jeff.

Jeff: I believe the current e-book that’s had a big affect on me is, “Tremendous Synchronicity” by Dr. Gary E. Schwartz. And its in depth analysis into synchronicities and the way they’re simply so past likelihood. You realize, they’re simply virtually unattainable. And what they inform us, and for me, it was that these synchronicities are pointing the best way to some both way of life or connection to another person that can fulfill some intention that I’ve that these synchronicities present up. And that it’s a manner of divinity talking, you would say, or a route within the circulation of the universe. So I used to be actually struck by his scientific rigor that he introduced to actually learning synchronicity. In order that was one that actually, actually acquired me.

Katie: That could be a new suggestion for me. I’ll put that within the present notes. And I additionally simply added it to my Kindle. So, I’m excited to leap into that one. This was such a enjoyable dialog. Like I stated, I do know we went into some matters which may actually be new ones for lots of people. And I do know that you just guys have plenty of analysis. If persons are eager about studying extra or perhaps really feel like they nonetheless don’t perceive how one in all these items we’ve talked about works, and so I’ll put some extra detailed hyperlinks to all of these. For you guys, when you’re listening whilst you’re driving, otherwise you’re exercising, you would discover all these within the present notes.

Any parting phrases or recommendation for anybody? It may very well be associated to this or not. I don’t, if I can get my very own. However one which I’ve in relation to consciousness and our personal expression into the world I really like, and any interplay with somebody to ask the query, like how can I really like this particular person greatest on this second? However I might love to listen to any parting recommendation that both of you have got.

Clayton: I’ll begin with that, perhaps to present you a second to assume, Jeff. I didn’t know you had been a doula. Otherwise you had been concerned in birthing different youngsters. So I don’t know if that’s a brilliant synchronicity. However that’s a cool synchronicity. And I simply acquired instructed to inform that story. Typically, it’s attention-grabbing to surprise the place our ideas come from, actually, it’s attention-grabbing. We’ve explored that with kinesiology, you understand, after we consider there’s angelic realms, and if you ask divinity for assist, and to bless different folks, you get helped.

And I believe love begets extra love. And I do know that your intention in the direction of folks you serve, Katie, is excessive, and it’s one of many issues we sort of examined after we had been taking a look at speaking to you. And it’s like, “Wow, she actually cares concerning the folks she talked to.” So it was grateful to be within the firm of different individuals who have good intent. And for some cause, my interior science geek desires to only depart folks with a attainable experiment, in addition to all of the management panel and issues in FLFE. Properly, really this does relate to the management panel.

You realize, there’s an EMF…as a result of your viewers actually is eager about that, you would put your fingers in your router after which have someone flip the EMF mitigation on and off in your management panel in FLFE, and see in case your physique strikes in the direction of it or away from it, or a wise meter. Good meters, I actually discover. I don’t discover routers as a lot, however good meters, it’s like, wow, the vitality, after I simply maintain that, it’s prefer it begins to… I really feel like I begin to shrivel. After which after I activate the EMF mitigation within the management panel, then it’s like I can simply breathe and loosen up. I really feel like my posture will get higher. It’s a very sensible, you understand, do-it-yourself instance of one thing you’ll be able to simply attempt, you understand. It doesn’t price you something. And we like to experiment. We’re sort of geeks, so I simply attempt to cross that on.

Jeff: Yeah, and speaking about fields of consciousness round us on a regular basis and these peak experiences that we’ve had in our lives, like births. There’s some timeless nature about these experiences the place, I might say, let’s experiment by simply remembering or placing your self again in that start, that second, or some peak expertise. And that feeling is simply there. Like, it’s simply immediately. Like, it’s occurring proper now.

And that there’s a timelessness in these fields that we are able to then use to entry anytime that we have to increase, you understand, that we’re in a, you understand, powerful state of affairs the place our frustration or on the finish of our endurance, to name in that peak second, that discipline to activate that discipline round us. And that useful resource assist ourselves to be extra useful resource in that second. So, I’d simply depart with that.

Katie: I find it irresistible. I believe that’s an ideal place to place a pin in it for immediately. However hopefully future conversations to return. And for all of you listening, undoubtedly take a look at the opposite analysis obtainable on their web site, in addition to their 14-day free trial. In contrast to most issues on the web, you’ll be able to really simply attempt it. You don’t should enter your bank card and provides them your first little one or something loopy to attempt it. You may simply do it.

And I’m very curious to listen to from all of you listening, particularly on the EMF factor and the self-experimentation. That is, like I stated, a subject that we’re all going to take care of in our lifetimes. And I believe there’s nice methods to do it that aren’t simply residing in a cave. So I’m very grateful for you each being right here immediately and sharing your analysis, which is, I believe, a brand new fascinating realm for lots of people listening and I’m simply studying about myself, so deep gratitude, and thanks to you each.

Clayten: Thanks, Katie.

Jeff: Thanks, Katie.

Katie: And as all the time, because of all of you for listening and sharing your most dear sources, your time, your vitality, and your consideration with us all immediately. We’re so grateful that you just did. And I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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